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March 13, 2012

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not ok

My daughter has started to laugh about people walking "funny" cos they are disabled, people talking sign language and people in wheelchairs. Not acceptable. I pull her up on it every time and now when she sees someone in a wheelchair she already knows at 4 years old that its not a laughing matter. Anyone who doesnt pull their kid up on it is doing a disservice to society. Seems to me like this is probably something thats been going on for generations. As a parent you have to pull them up on it, nobody else is gonna do it and its how you end up with a society full of assholes

Katbag 345 days ago

red socks

sometimes this staring is so hilarious..like when i wore these red socks last week..and im like all in a jacket, black and sort of italiano...and then whoever notice these socks just start staring at me as if id be a puss in boots...hah..what's wrong with you people?? t's just red socks, the others were dirty...

Davis Pudans more than 2 years ago

funny

to write an article on manners using such strong language.

Josie more than 2 years ago

I grew up

with a very strict "kuck nicht so hin" and my kids are also not allowed to stare at all.
Thank you for this post!

Julia more than 2 years ago

Why are you seeing so many cripples in Neukölln?

Is it a hipster thing?

Borek more than 2 years ago

korrekt

doesn't matter if it's cultural- you're right, they're wrong. here people who are mixed race get looked at with not only curiosity but with an element of repulsion yet watch how deftly eyes divert when jemand bettelt in der bahn. probs the parents do it too and their justification of this habit only maintains die grenzen zwischen "them" and "us"

aid more than 2 years ago

I wrote

mendaciously honest. It got subbed to mendacious honest. I think mendaciously honest is quite accurate, I do love you all, but you are mendaciously honest.

Jacinta more than 2 years ago

SPARE ME

"I love this country, I seriously do. But sometimes I just think: Germans. They're the most mendacious honest people in the entire fucking world."

das ist wirklich extrem beleidigend. nein danke! echt nicht.

Urte Beer more than 2 years ago

*

Kids stare at absolutely everybody, no matter what they look like and it's all part of learning.....

Laura more than 2 years ago

yes, but.

German here, and my kid is not allowed to point or stare. But you know what? In Germany, scissors beat rock. Because the stone whets the scissors, and they come away sharper. Ha.

Maria Fagerlund more than 2 years ago

@Andreas

But who is comfortable with being stared at AT ALL? one of the things I like about living in Neukölln is that you don't get stared at - or stared out, as if we'd say in London. There's relatively little staring going on, by Berlin standards. I fucking hate being stared at, I've sobbed on just about every U-Bahn-Line in Berlin coz I fucking hate it. And I know this is a bit cultural, but I don't think it's that cultural, nobody enjoys being stared at. Eyed up, yeah (but German boys never do, anyways) stared AT - no. Nobody likes that. It's horrible.

Jacinta more than 2 years ago

I think both approaches are way over the top.

Both "anglotzen" and "weggucken" are wrong, from my point of view.

I'll give any disabled (physical, fashion, or otherwise) just about exactly the same amount of curiosity I'll give anyone else who stand out.

And guess what? I've met a whole lot of disabled people who, when talked to, are actually positively thankful for every single person who treats them like a normal human being - with their very own, individual quirks - instead of shunning them.

So, consider acting natural. Don't artificially look away, don't stare longer than until you've noticed you are staring beyond what you'd feel comfortable about being stared at yourself.

And PLEASE let kids learn from more than one person. As they say in Africa: it takes the whole village to raise a child.

People are so much more colorful when expose to different personalities ;) ... but - I may be wrong myself ;)

Andreas Kotes more than 2 years ago

look for new friends?!

i am German and i think, it's not ok to stare,and that's exactly what i would tell any kid who doesn't seem to know. i never experienced people like those you're on about- so either you know the wrong people who have no manners whatsoever, or I've just been lucky or blind!

vicky more than 2 years ago

I love you, because you're right

“I know it's normal that they stare,” I said. “But it's rude, that's why you should tell them not to do it. It's normal that they want ice-cream for breakfast. But they're not allowed. It's forbidden. Right?”

simple and true. well argued.

and I have to say, Germans do stare the shit out of you. not only if you're gehbehindert or have a different coloured skin. sometimes it's enough to wear a pair of extravagant shoes on the U5 and everyone will look at you as if you're from mars. it's really weird.

berliner schnauze more than 2 years ago

Eesh

"...all those things German people stuff their souls with to stop them feeling any real emotions whatsoever."

"Germans. They're the most mendacious honest people in the entire fucking world. And glotzen is NOT okay."

Bit too generalistic maybe? I'm sure not every German person thinks that way...

milly more than 2 years ago

Curiosity killed the cat...

Satisfaction brought it back... bla-bla-bla, in deed. Feckin' hell, since when is that level of rudeness 'okay' even for Germany. Again - as so often - I have to wonder what sort of folks you hang out with, Jacinta.

Mike more than 2 years ago

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