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well well well

maybe we have different ideas of what constitutes a rivalry. imho a rivalry has to grow over years. it can be rooted deep in history (like the war of the roses rivalry between leeds and manu) or be a local/regional rivalry (e.g. millwall vs. west ham), it can even have political roots (real madrid and barca).

rivalries don´t go away when clubs play in different leagues. the red mancs were still singing "we all hate leeds scum" at every single match when the whites were languishing in the doldrums of league one. union fans hate dynamo with a passion (and vice versa) even though their teams are currently three leagues apart.

most importantly: a rivalry worth that name has to be two-sided. there are numerous clubs who claim to have some rivalry with leeds: hull, huddersfield, both sheffield clubs, bradford… even effing millwall. however, leeds don´t deem those clubs worthy rivals which is why they don´t sing about them (unless when they meet directly) but about salford plc and chelsea.

besides, dislike or even hatred is not enough to make a rivalry. leeds fans totally detest galatasaray but will never, ever consider them rivals but murderous vermin (whether rightly or wrongly is another discussion).

the reason for bfc fans disliking bak (apart from their dubious win of last year´s cup final in which 2 perfect goals for bfc were disallowed) is not a rivalry but the fact that the new version of bak, just like hoffenheim or rb leipzig, is a 100% artificial creation that has no history, no class and, in bak´s case, no fanbase let alone fan culture. ergo exactly the same reasons why every proper english footy fan i know despises mk dons.

now this is off my chest I´d like to inform you that, at this point in time, bak are not guaranteed promotion yet. torgelow (who sit second in the table, one point adrift of bak, but with a game in hand) have allegedly (not confirmed) now also applied for a license. rathenow (who are currently 7th, 17 points behind table toppers bak) definitely have. the only reason for this - since rathenow don´t have the slightest chance of catching bak - is that they hope that this time round the football authorities will check the finances of all candidates properly and thus prevent clubs going into meltdown soon after promotion like tebe and turkiyemspor have done in recent years. in other words: that bak (and maybe torgelow?) won´t get a license.

afaik hansa´s reserves don´t even have to apply for a license if their first team (whose promotion to bundesliga 2 is more or less secure, unless there are some financial obstacles) does. rumour has it they don´t want to go up as they think the regionalliga (where you have to travel longer distances, pay higher wages but - in the case of the reserve teams or clubs like bak who frankly no-one gives a wank about - hardly create more income at the gates than in the oberliga) is too expensive but they might change their mind once their first team are up.

mot
steve

berlinwhite more than 3 years ago

well well well

maybe we have different ideas of what constitutes a rivalry. imho a rivalry has to grow over years. it can be rooted deep in history (like the war of the roses rivalry between leeds and manu) or be a local/regional rivalry (e.g. millwall vs. west ham), it can even have political roots (real madrid and barca).

rivalries don´t go away when clubs play in different leagues. the red mancs were still singing "we all hate leeds scum" at every single match when the whites were languishing in the doldrums of league one. union fans hate dynamo with a passion (and vice versa) even though their teams are currently 3 leagues apart.

most importantly: a rivalry worth its name has to be two-sided. numerous clubs claim to have some rivalry with leeds: hull, huddersfield, both sheffield clubs, bradford… even effing millwall. however, leeds don´t deem those clubs worthy rivals which is why they don´t sing about them (unless when they meet directly) but about salford plc and chelsea.

besides, dislike or even hatred is not enough to make a rivalry. leeds fans totally detest galatasaray but will never, ever consider them rivals but murderous vermin (whether rightly or wrongly is another discussion).

the reason for bfc fans disliking bak (apart from their dubious win of last year´s cup final in which 2 perfect goals for bfc were disallowed) is not a rivalry but the fact that the new version of bak, just like hoffenheim or rb leipzig, is a 100% artificial creation that has no history, no class and, in bak´s case, no fanbase let alone fan culture. ergo exactly the same reasons why every proper english footy fan i know despises mk dons.

now this is off my chest i´d like to inform you that, at this point in time, bak are not guaranteed promotion to the regionalliga yet. torgelow (who sit second in the table, one point adrift of bak, but with a game in hand) have allegedly (not confirmed) now also applied for a license. rathenow (who are currently 7th, 17 points behind table toppers bak) definitely have. the only reason for this - since rathenow don´t have the slightest chance of catching bak - is that they hope that this time round the football authorities will check the finances of all applicants properly and thus prevent clubs going into meltdown soon after promotion like tebe and turkiyemspor have done in recent years. in other words: that bak (and maybe torgelow?) won´t get a license.

afaik hansa´s reserves don´t even have to apply for a license if their first team (whose promotion to bundesliga 2 is more or less secure, unless there are some financial obstacles) does. rumour has it they don´t want to go up as they think the regionalliga (where you have to travel longer distances, pay higher wages but - in the case of the reserve teams or clubs like bak who no-one gives a wank about really - hardly create more income at the gates than in the oberliga) is too expensive but they might change their mind once their first team are up.

mot
steve

berlinwhite more than 3 years ago

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