Neukölln’s unwanted Gypsies

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Schillerkiez

I live in Schillerkiez since a couple of months. There was the so called "Okerstrasse Action Group" for some problems connected to bulgarian expat living in massive conditions.
On the "inspiration" of this "action group" we can discuss. They are gone, better so.

What is real is that every fucking day there is dirty stuff on the streets: sofas, beds, smashed tvs... There are children: germans, turkish, bulgarian... nevermind. All of them have the right to a clean and healthy situation.
I also took part to some street cleaning actions, but the day after is again the same situation.

Simon more than 3 years ago

Frighteningly Naive Article

Sometimes the EXBERLINER just gets it plain wrong. Not often. But when you do misunderstand an issue, the result is staggeringly naive. This article is based upon so many prejudices and misconceptions, so flawed in its analysis, that it does nothing to illuminate the issue of Sinti and Roma in Berlin. It really is quite an offensive piece, with an undercurrent of nasty racism.

Samir more than 5 years ago

regarding the roma

http://jctryps.wordpress.com/2011/01/28/regarding-the-romani/

jc.tryps more than 5 years ago

The gypos

Sorry no racism intended, spent a long weekend in Berlin just before christmas and had a great time there, except being constantly hassled by Bosnian women asking for money and cigarettes. Using her "new born" baby as an excuse for money, but then for cigarettes is disgrace!

Chloe more than 5 years ago

Racism etc.

Dear Rober Rigney, whether intentioally or not, this article sounds like veiled racism. In presentation and content, it is dauntingly unclear as to whose views are in fact being presented. Be careful of stereotypes and generalizations--to often they only lead to falsity and pain...

Joan Good more than 5 years ago

what are you saying?

If you don´t know what you are talking about please write about something else you know mor about.

A good source for this subject would for example be:

www.sintiundroma.de

Laura more than 5 years ago

More gypsies in Berlin

You forget to mention the Roma (or are they Sinti?) rentboys/pickpockets in the Eisenacherstr. area in North Schöneberg.

Andy Bryant more than 5 years ago

To Jesse

I'm a social worker who's been assisting socially disadvantaged people for many years, including many Roma. I personally didn’t find any slant or racism in this article and can only support the overall picture. Roma do tend to have many children and most – for many reasons including the racial prejudices mentioned by the author – have trouble finding jobs. It is actually part of my job to help them get welfare. Yes, many live off the state: they need to survive one way or another. Illegal ones often survive from petty theft and begging: everyone knows those.
The author adequately mirrors a complex reality that I often have trouble explaining to people who don’t know the situation on the ground so well. A reality that should go beyond the simplistic pro-Roma rosy picture vs anti-Roma racist slant. Life is tough for Roma, here and sometimes worse at home. But denying problems – for instance the fact they have many children and very few means to survive on their own, the fact that they are traditionally extremely reluctant to send their kids to school, that some Roma children do beg and steal , etc - doesn’t help. The Roma issue is a complex issue Lets’ not make it a taboo one. Or the Sarrazins of this world will have it too easy again…

Julius more than 5 years ago

Huh?!

This piece is unclear, slanted, and sorely lacking in basic journalistic principles, e.g. attribution of sources, a fair and balanced perspective, and concrete facts upon which a reader would be able to many any informed opinions on.
For example, the casual and repeated use of the word "many" in the article: "Many of these came to Germany", "...many returned to Berlin by hook or by crook", "...has succeeded in riling up many Neukölln Roma, who tend to have a lot of children and and often live off the state." Um, excuse me, but says who? Did you talk to "many" Neuköln Roma? And what does "tend to have a lot of children" mean, exactly? Compared to what? What does "often live off the state" mean? Do you have any actual numbers to present, or did you talk to 5 people, make some assumptions, and put it to print?

Also, why did Roma want to return to Berlin after being orginally "forced to leave..." (whatever being "forced to leave" means... who knows?)

Ironically, and confusingly, in paragraph 19, when describing the media in Berlin focusing on negative Roma stereotypes, the author seems to express a sympathic, enlightened attitude regarding racism experienced by Roma, and yet I would have never guessed it because the first few paragraphs of the story describe tacky nightclubs, rampant gypsy thieves in Neuköln, and brand spanking new whore houses seemingly run by the Bulgarian Gypsy Mob. Again, "...but everyone has stories about Gypsies..." I'm sorry, but did you talk to "everyone"?

Furthermore, the article doesn't at all answer the question "What's life like in Germany for the people once known as Gypsies?"

Finally, none of the photographs have captions!

I'd say, if you want to assist people in being misinformed and simultaneously perpetuate racism towards Roma, by all means, leave the article as it stands.

jesse more than 5 years ago

Missing parts

Thank you for a very interesting article. Can you please expend (or write a follow up article) on other perspectives, for example views held by city authorities, university students, other immigrants in the Berlin, etc.

Asif more than 5 years ago

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